Girl dies as parents pray for healing

An eleven year old girl, seriously ill with diabeties related problems, spent 30 days suffering as her parents refused to take her to a doctor and simply relied on 'prayer' and 'faith' to heal their daughter.

Dan Vergin, the local police chief, said she had been ill for a month, suffering symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness.

"She just got sicker and sicker until she was dead," he said.

Even after her death, her parents, Dale and Leilani Neumann, who did not belong to any organised faith, prayed over her body in the hope that she might be resurrected.

They may not be members of any particular faith, but the fact that are of any faith at all is the reason behind this childs death. She was eleven years old and all she needed was a simple injection! But no, instead of getting her treated for her ketoacidosis, they 'prayed' for her, believing their God would heal her.

Police are now preparing a report for prosecutors. However, legal action against the parents may be prevented by a Wisconsin state statute against failing to act to protect children from bodily harm.

The statute contains an exemption for what it refers to as "treatment through prayer". Mrs Neumann, whose husband is a former policeman, said they had never expected her daughter to die.

Worse, it looks like the authorities wont be able to do anything about it! Is it just me, or should 'treatment through prayer' be re-labeled as 'neglect'? This child was far too young to understand what was happening to her, let alone make an informed decision about how she wanted to be treated for it. So the idea that her parents will get off scott-free, is a disgusting one to me.

Other sources say they have three other, older children, all of whom are still with their parents. Again, I'm appalled - those children should be removed - what happens if they get seriously ill? will they do nothing but 'pray' and 'have faith'?

I rank this along with the 'Attachment Therapists' of the world. This is an accepted form of abuse that people simply gloss over, because in general, people pray to heal the sick who will likely heal anyway. Only when the ill person dies do people notice.

It should be illegal to refuse to offer (orthodox) medical care to a child for religious reasons.

Favorite Quote.

One of my favorite quotes of all time - most of you have probably read this.

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.


Original can be found here. The Biblical quotes can be found in the link too.

This speaks for itself really.

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Bag's Art Blog

Yupp - I've started a new Blog - showcasing my artwork, for anyone who's interested ^^

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Go lookit and tell me what you think ^^

I don't think i'll have any strct 'uplaoding' dates or anything, I'll just post a piece of art whenever I do something I'm happy to share.

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Happy Choco Bunny Day

The conversation went thus:

Me: It's a bit redundant - but, Happy Easter XD
Him: Oh, that's right - isn't today the day the Easter Bunny died for our sins?
Me: O.O I so have to draw that!

So I did c.c

H

P.S. - Do xtians never wonder why the festival is full of eggs and baby birds and rabbits (which should technically be hares)?

Homeopathic suicide?

I'm doing some reading around the subject and found this article on the Quackwatch website - you simply must read it, it's terribly amusing XD It's three years old, but it still proves the point!

In other news, I finished the project!

I pencilled and inked 20 pages in a week and coloured/lettered them all in two days flat x_____x

I do believe I am due some dead-time now.

H

Not forgotten!

I've not forgotten the blog - honest! I'm just in the middle of a rather urgent publishing project atm! I have to get nine more pages complete over the weekend for the Monday deadline!

It doesn't help that I've started writing an essay on Homeopathy. A short, yet damning, essay, with proper reasearch and everything. I is smarts.

(Did you know, for instance, that their most sold remedy is diluted at 200c? That's a ratio of 1 molecule of 'active ingredient', to a number with 20 thousand zeroes after it? To put it another way - to get a single molecule of the active ingredient, you'd have to drink more water than the universe actually contains..... and people fall for this, WHY?)

Anyway - back as soon as the project is safely under my belt!

Alternative Medicine

I'm trying to get my head around why exactly people fall for that shit - it's proving quite perplexing. Especially Homeopathy - 1 molecule of something in an awful lot of water, does not a medicine make. I'll write up my thoughts in a bit.

Wife Swap

I caught Wife Swap last night, for the first time in a long time (I find I don't watch TV much these days, except to shout at CSI or maybe drool over House) and was amused to discover that the two women changing places were both Christian, but of tow different 'sorts'.

The one was a SAHW who bowed down to her (Pastor) husbands every whim and the other was a loutish binge drinker with a gambling problem. The families did not mesh well - as you'd expect from such programs.

SAHW found it hard to get to grips with relaxing and letting her hair down, while Binge had problems doing the housework.

I found myself preferring the loutish woman and her family - mostly because the SAHW's husband was quite clearly masking his innate chauvanism with quote-mined snippets from the Bible.

It didn't help that SAHW felt the need to start indoctrinating her host families children into 'her' version of the faith - to which thier father had a thing or to say, telling her his kids would make their minds up when they were older.

However, it has to be said that Binge was not the ideal mother-figure. She was lazy, a drinker and a gambler and didn't pay her kids as much attention as they clearly needed.

By the end of it, I had shouted at SAHW's husband five or six times and the two families were apparently happier. SAHW's family decided to start relaxing a bit and be more spontaneous, while Binge's family decided to try to go to church more often...

Hrm.

I'd love it if they did a Christian/Athiest swap at some point. Now THAT would be amusing.